a message for red....

SpYdErMaN · Joined: 25 Oct 2004 Posts: 7 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada

go check out the l4t3ncy forums out....get this shit with giv settled so you and kitty can come back...i miss yas in there

Redline · Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:21 pm Post subject:

No offense Spyderman, but I have no interest in wasting any of my energy on reconciling things with Giv. He had the nerve to call me a liar when I had given him absolutly no reason to think so, and had been doing my best to smooth things over with the Kitty/Vixxy incident. He had the nerve to tell me that Kitty came back and started shit, when he and his overzealous girlfriend initiated it as soon as she joined the server just like the first time, when Vixxy started shit with Kitty. There is a reason so many people bash Giv on his forums. You probably have no idea how many posts and accounts he deletes a day because he pisses off person after person with his attitude and lack of knowlege of proper Administration.

From what I have learned of Givaden's personality, which is obviously skewed because of this ridiculous internet arena, he is not a good person. He lacks the knowlege, the skills, and the finesse of a good admin. He is the opposite of a "people person", and does not deserve the power that he has. I'm not going to say anything about Vixxy as I haven't specifically dealt with her, but I will say she certainly does not have a very good light cast upon her. A quote from one of L4t3ncy's own members "I guess I just stayed out of her way long enought for her to start respecting me a bit". I can't figure out why this member put up with that kind of treatment.

I have no interest in reconciling with Giv, and I really can't see why it is me that needs to do the reconciling. I will never play on their server again. I have no interest in dealing with their attitudes.

SpYdErMaN · Joined: 25 Oct 2004 Posts: 7 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada

you know what...its hard for me to say but you are totally right on this one....but one dif between me and you is that im always willing to give ppl a second chance at shit in life....and i believe that makes me a good person and usually ends up working out in the end...if i never learned to forgive ppl i wouldnt have any friends and id be struggling along wondering what could have been...you know? its not the same here because counter strike is only a game...but the same concept holds for me...im willing to set aside my differences and at least TRY to come to a compromise of some sort...i mean what is it gonna take ?? a few minutes of your day to at least TRY...what could it hurt....as for your other message for me....i shouldnt be there ....but i play with a lot of good ppl there ill continue to play in that room as long as cs is running or i myself recieve the permaban...giv can be a good friend (notice i said CAN)...if you are willing to make a compromise and meet him in the middle somewhere...im not saying this for him...but for myself and what i believe to be true...plz reply....i wanna know how you feel about this

Redline · Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:14 pm Post subject:

I did give Giv a chance, but the problem is this. Giv and I are, as much as I hate to admit, very similar in certain respects. He doesn't put up with peoples shit, and neither do I. The difference is, we have different ways of dealing with it. His philosophy is, whatever, he's gone. For one banned player, there're 20K to fill his place. He seems to expect people to bow down to him, and that I am not going to do.

Givvy is not the type of person I can call friend, not after what I have witnessed. And the beautiful thing about the internet is I don't have to. Yes, that does make you a good person, that you're willing to give people a second chance. I have given Giv several chances. Not directly, but I have been watching his forums and seeing how he talks to people, how he deals with things. I don't like what I see, and he's fucked me already. So forget it. I'm not interested.

You've dealt with his crap enough to get in his inner circle, good for you. I have no interest in trying so hard for something that offers absolutly no reward. I don't need he and his clan on my list of friends. I have plenty of them already and I won't go begging for them.

Sparrow · Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:55 pm Post subject:

I say you just let me go in there and work the shit out of his face. I wouldnt mind, besides if he talks shit to me I'll cuss the fucker out. I've been banned from many a server in my day, it wouldnt bother me to be out of that one.

SpYdErMaN · Joined: 25 Oct 2004 Posts: 7 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada

i see totally where you are coming from...to ban without explaination is very ignorant...not to mention arrogant...as it happened to me too once long ago by him...and i can also see that nothing i say will change you so im not gonna even pursue it any longer...i can't say i didn't try...(as i was saying earlier)...but as for the...

"I don't need he and his clan on my list of friends. I have plenty of them already and I won't go begging for them."

i dont think you should have to...but you got one of that clan as a friend whether you like it or not....cause i have no reason to hate you or any of yours...

Redline · Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:41 pm Post subject:

I don't have a problem with you SpYdErMan, I can call you my friend. That wasn't directed at you, sorry if you took it that way

SpYdErMaN · Joined: 25 Oct 2004 Posts: 7 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada

i ask that you consider my application....if you want it ill play for yas....(i am latencys second best) if not...then no harm in asking i guess...

Kitty · Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 12

SpYdErMaN · Joined: 25 Oct 2004 Posts: 7 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada

not to rain on your day or anything guys...(in fact i dont even care)...why go do something like that? you would be stooping to his level...but hey its your life...

Kitty · Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 12

When I said, "DO IT, DO IT Sparrow" Spyderman, I wasn't actually being serious...

Sparrow · Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 11:59 am Post subject:

There are times in life when stooping to someone eles level is necessary. I am usually a passivist myself man, but I dont like people going and talking shit to my friends, Redline is like my fucking brother. So if he thinks hes all big and bad bossing people around he can try to boss me around see what happens. The best he can do is ban me, no big deal there. If you stay back and let people get away with shit all the time they walk over you, trust me, I know this man.

Maple Donut · Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:01 pm Post subject:

Sparrow is right... i kinda learned that the hard way, and im trying to get back up and let people know i wont take shit like that

Redline · Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:38 pm Post subject:

You go to someone elses server and be an ass, the only thing you're going to do is get yourself banned and have people talk shit about you. There's no point in it. You accomplish nothing.

Maple Donut · Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 6:54 pm Post subject:

i wasnt talking about doin that in a server, i meant in real life